. >> so we were -- john mccain was talking about that it was the right thing to do. i stated really my view, it's the right thing to do, as long as the standards are maintained. and i go back to one of the greatest pieces, i think, written about the iraq war, when you were talking about those marines going down the stairwell, one by one, getting shot, and another one going down, getting shot, and another going down, and this continued until they got to their buddies and were able to drag them to safety. any concerns with all the combat that you've seen that women put into certain circumstances might not be physically up to doing the same job that those marines did? >> i think there are probably, you know, plenty of women probably can't make the greade, probably can't do it. but probably plenty of men can't either. if you're a guy and sign up for the infantry, or take the extreme case, and say, i want to be in the special forces, most of them can't make it, because, you know, they can't do it. so i think as long as they don't lower the bar -- >> right. >> as long as y